A downloadable mod

Fantasy arcade beat em up action awaits you in GMOTA, tear through the hoardes of monsters with powerful melee weapons and special subweapons!

Features:

3 playable characters, 2 playable characters, each with a unique set of weapons, abilities, and subweapons! (One more hero to come in the future, with the other returning with him!)

20 different monsters to slay, along with a revamped cast of foes for the extra hard difficulty!

A music randomizer that features a crapload of old SNES and NES tunes, along with a shuffle button

In order to play GMOTA you will first need to get ahold of the Doom 2 Iwad, along with a sourceport: You can either grab GZDoom or the latest version of Zandronum (just hit the get latest version button on the upper right!)

For ease of loading GMOTA and any custom mapsets you might want to load along with it, I recommend ZDL which can make this process much smoother.

As for mapsets I recommend Scythe 1, Scythe 2, Brotherhood of Ruin, and Epic, though you can load it with whatever you please

Updated 18 days ago
StatusReleased
CategoryGame mod
Rating
Rated 4.9 out of 5 stars
(37 total ratings)
AuthorCombine_Kegan
GenreAction
Made withGIMP, Audacity, Aseprite
TagsArcade, Beat 'em up, Fantasy, First-Person
Average sessionA few minutes
LinksBlog, Support

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GMOTA_V.1.5.2.pk3 39 MB

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Here's a little feedback on the 1.5.2 version. I played as blaz on knightmare mode without any saves on some wads i can't remember lol.


The 1.5 update seems to want to overhaul the whole game and make it more coherent and consistent, but i honestly still prefer the 1.4 version in many ways. It's so diferent that it just seems like a new game at this point. Some problems i did have with version 1.4 was that it was kind of easy to play, after a certain point when you've already collected all the upgrades and whatnot, it was very difficult to die, and Blaz was the weakest of the 3 for me. 

Doomslayer was basically beefed up doomguy so he was already at home, and his bfg equivalent let him punch indefinitely until there was no more monsters, Kustam had perfect accuracy and great damage with his pistol, and his upgrades were very op and could easily wipe out waves of enemies. But Blaz didn't really have anything as op.

Being focused on close range meant that he was already handicapped. He had good melee damage but nothing really crazy, his powered up sword also didn't deal that much damage, his subweapons ranged from really good to basically useless, and his bfg was fine at best, very limited. His only truly op option was his buster upgrades, the blue one could deal a ton of damage and do some good crowd control, and the yellow one could tear through enemies while freezing them. So Blaz was pretty unbalanced and needed some changes.

The way Blaz plays in the new version is very weird. He pretty much got nerfed in every way possible. When you're surrounded for example, he's got very few options. Using the sword is not a good idea since his damage is not great, powering up the sword doesn't help much because of the low ammo and the damage is still relatively low and doesn't heal much, the sword throw seems to deal more damage than before but doesn't pierce through enemies anymore but throwing the powered up sword could maybe be a viable option to get rid of a small group of enemies, and then you can try and use the fists (which also don't deal much damage) to stun enemies while trying to take cover, but throwing the sword is a very awkward thing to do in these panic situations because it requires you to hold down the fire button for a litte and then release it, which is weird because the update seems to encourage the sword throw way more than before because of the lack of options that you had in the previous version, but doing that move requires you to prepare so much in advance, and in this situation you would still be open to a lot of damage depending on what monsters are surrounding you.

The subweapons are better but also heavily nerfed. They're very low on ammo so relying on them is not an option and the fact that they can't be powered up like the sword anymore just limits your options even more (honestly i didn't use the subweapons that much, so maybe i played it wrong). Also, the hammer acts really weird. If i use it at close range on an enemy it hits them with the melee variation, then it's immediately thrown. It used to be really cool to have an extra melee weapon and now it's not possible anymore =(

The buster is probably the worst option in that scenario: it has low ammo, deals low damage, the stun is very different from the freeze the old buster had, because hitting the enemies while they're stunned makes them wake up, which means that stunning enemies to hit them with the sword often results in you taking damage, and even with the upgrade it could still be a problem.

All of this makes playing Blaz kind of frustrating. I always feel like i'm severely handicapped, it feels stiff, dealing damage to enemies with the normal sword combo doesn't feel very satisfying because of the weird timing it has and it doesn't deal much damage so what i often do is throw the sword to kill enemies more quickly, but this makes me take cover, hold the fire button, throw the sword and repeat for the next enemy, and that doesn't really flow for me. I avoid using the buster because i'll run out of ammo, but using it also doesn't help because the stun is heavily nerfed, and the subweapon is not much different.

 Here's a few suggestions: the subweapon could have ammo pickups like before but with a limit, and then it would reset every map just like before. The buster and subweapon could also have it's own button, it just seems kind of awkward to keep changing weapons when they barely change anything at all. Since the buster is not really its own weapon like before, it would be way more convenient to have it ready at any moment, that would incentivize the player to use both the buster and subweapons at any moment, instead of basically choosing one at any given time. The sword throw could also benefit from its own dedicated button, it's a very useful tool but using it is needlessly complicated (specially with the last hit from the combo, because holding the button while the last animation plays makes Blaz swing the sword 1 more time to then hold the sword to throw).


Anyway, sorry for the giant text wall, i don't really mean to bitch about this mod, it's my favorite doom mod and could easily be its own game, and i'm really happy that you're still taking your time to work on it. These are just some things that i didn't like much but it's still a great mod. Most of the things i said could be wrong, and maybe i just suck at the game. As for Doomslayer, i didn't play him much but i really miss the bomb.

Thanks in advance if you read all of this and thank you very much for the mod.

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Funny you mention some of those things regarding Blaz's sword. I intend on changing up how powering up works in the very near future where it'll be automatically triggered and instead of being consumed on use, it'll be a timer you can extend by continuously hitting enemies, giving you more time and HP in return this will also apply to the fists. Because I'll be doing this new system, I'll be moving the sword throw command to the reload button. In fact the only reason why I didn't do it with v1.5.2 is I've been working at all this stuff enough and I needed to give myself a break.

You're better off treating Blaz's subweapons as tools to set up for making things easier to fight in melee, with the exception of the lance, that one's purely a ranged weapon. Removing the free melee swing from the hammer was intentional to prevent players from leaning on it constantly like a crutch, you get one attack and that's it. Finally, I will not be adding anymore buttons, the mod suffers from that enough as is.

I've had a lot of people complain about losing Doomslayer's bombs and only having the daggers. I might swap the daggers out with the bombs in the future, though this would require some adjusting with the healing effect, most likely lessening its effectiveness with single targets. He'll be getting some more changes in the future as well, as I'm dissatisfied with the "drop ammo on kill" system, I'm going to switch it over to gaining MP on melee strike similar to how Blaz works, and he'll have a two mana pool like Hexen for his arsenal.

Also as new as everything is, I would advise against playing Knightmare until you acclimate to the new mechanics.

I'm definitely not done with this project, and I'll be making sure things feel right.

I did notice that the subweapons and buster were changed to enhance the melee combat, but doom's level design doesn't really compliment that so it can get pretty difficult to deal with certain enemies when they keep distance, so i get how difficult it is to make Blaz be focused on melee when the game is doesn't help. Also maybe the hammer could have a different effect on melee, like deal slightly more damage and do the aoe damage on the melee hit instead of doing the animation twice.

Anyway, i hope you're doing good and good luck on working on this,.

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Making the hammer melee just be an explosive attack and then triggering the cooldown isn't a bad idea, honestly. You're also absolutely right about the issues with some maps insisting on ranged combat with super out reach enemies where I have issues dealing with that even with the failsafes I've added. I'm sticking to my guns here though, or swords in this case. One day when I break away from the Doom engine and go into standalone games, I won't have that problem.

I appreciate your patience as I continue to adjust everything and flip this mod upside down for like the 4th time. With any luck with the next upcoming update I can further finetune Blaz and get things feeling good.

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Are you still working on the project? Are you gonna release the 4th character anytime soon? I hope you are doing okay dude.  Keep up the good work.

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I'm good, and yeah I'm still working on the project! I put it down for what was SUPPOSED to be a short time so I can work on a Combined_Arms Gaiden update and that's been taking longer than I anticipated, lol.

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I made this tweak to the Wave Buster so it acts like the Diffusion Wave Cannon of Super R-Type, the bullets now spread out, re-converge, then sail off in a wide spread.  great for attacking enemies behind corners, or achieving focus-fire at a set distance!

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Nice. Could you upload a patch or something? I really liked it

What do the "gun parts" do?

Enhances your rate of fire for the Blazter, letting you mash and shoot faster, once you get enough of them you can shoot an extra shot for free.

My dude, good job on this mod, it's come so far. Last time I played it was like five years ago when you still only had one character and were still trying to deglitchify that skellington. I didn't even know doom mods were on itch!

Playing the wolfenstein levels in Doom 2 is really entertaining with all the SS officer replacement monsters.  The mod itself has been a blast to play, I've been playing it with a bunch of different wads.  Is there a list anywhere of the music used for the characters?  I recognized some of Blaz's, but I can't remember what games they're from.

Yeah actually, inside the .pk3 itself there's a credits.txt file that lists all of tracks I've used for characters, and I've gone into detail as best I can for each track. It's a little harder for Kustam as a lot of NES tracks don't have names tied to them.

Awesome, thank you!  I had already poked around in the pk3 searching for the songs, but for some reason I didn't think to check in the credits.  I would not have guessed that Blaz alone would have over a hundred songs.  If for whatever reason you feel that you don't have enough music, the soundtrack for Seiken Densetsu 3 is well worth a listen-- I think "The Sacrifice Part III", "Electric Talk", "Nuclear Fusion", "Decision Bell", and "High Tension Wire" would fit the mod particularly well (or maybe just be good music to work to).  Thanks again for all the work you've put into this, it really shows.  

I just noticed that Armors are now treated as Count Items. I do not think that it is a good idea, as it means you can get 100% items if you are already at full armor.

Spotted some typos in the Guide screens: "grapple chain" (should be "grappling chain"), "flinch them" (should be "make them flinch"), "are discovered from" (should be "are discovered by"), "life stealing dagger" (should be "life-stealing dagger"), "shots are instantaneous" (should be "shots hit instantaneously"), "to charge your kick charged kicks" (there should be a period between the first "kick" and "charged", and "charged" should be capitalised). Finally, the asterisk before "Provided you have" should be on the same line as the sentence it precedes ("*Provided you have").

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Sorry to bug you, but for some reason I am having some bizarre audio problems with Lord Blaz' music with the recent version (v1.4.1), whenever I start a new game with him, his music is very low in terms of volume and doesn't change much if I mess with GZDoom's sound settings, and then after I change from another character then back to Lord Blaz, it works normally all of the sudden? I'm not sure what is causing this issue. This problem seems to also affect other characters as well from what I'm seeing (or rather, hearing).

My system's specs:

  • OS: Windows 10 Home, 64-bit
  • CPU: AMD FX-4350
  • GPU: Nvidia GeForce GTX 960 (4GB VRAM)
  • RAM: 8GB DDR3

Using GZDoom v4.4.2 (64-bit), tried different audio output (FluidSynth, WildMIDI, etc.) and different sampling rates as well (48KHz and 44.1KHz).

I ran into that issue too, quicksaving then loading also fixes the music volume.

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It also seems to be an issue with newer GZDoom; Kagen didn't have issues with the SPC playback in earlier builds and I can confirm that as well sadly after install another v3.4.1 installation of GZDoom and it didn't happen there, unfortunately I can't use other newer mods like Tactical Spy (which crashes the engine despite saying it works with v3.2 or newer) and updated builds of RetroShader with GMOTA.

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Any plans of Heretic compatibility? A fantasy medieval-themed mod like that would be perfect for that game. If not, do you know of good fantasy medieval-themed megawads? As far as I can tell, Scythe is not really that.

Am I missing something or does it take a very long time to kill the heavier monsters as the doomslayer? Like, multiple minutes of peeking and shooting with the SSG.

Depends what you mean heavier monsters, if you're talking about like the Pavise Guards usually you're gonna want to get in closer and meatshot them with the thunderbuss. Barring that, use the rocket launcher

Pavise Guards (if those are the bosses based on cyberdemons) I'm finding take a really long time, yeah. Mainly, it's the enemies that shoot cannonballs since the scythe maps are absolutely filled to the brim with them, they're often at a distance, and in the best case scenario, it takes 5 point-blank shots with the thunderbuss.

As Blaz you could press the zoom button to supercharge your gauntlet and chew through them (though sometimes the flying reaper enemies wouldn't die. I'm not sure if they have some invincibility mechanic.)

Pavise guards are the big fellas with shields who shoot cannonballs. I'll take a look at the damage numbers for them when I get back to updating GMOTA, the Cybermancers should be tough so that's fine. I'll need to nerf Blaz's Hyper mode a little more as it's currently too strong. The reaper looking enemies, the edgelords, they don't have an invincibility mechanic so I'll need to look into that too.

Scythe 2 had some impossible parts in the last episode (Scythe 1 also had these) but that's to be expected since it wasn't designed for GMOTA.

The fire elementals with 100% tracking shots seemed a bit much. If the map spawns one close to you, you're guaranteed to die since they do over 100 damage in a volley.

The cybermancers are generally great enemies, but I do think it's a bit frustrating that their 2 deadliest attacks are the ones that don't have windups (the solid beam, and the projectiles+beam.)

The weapon set is good. Rockets felt kinda weak. I couldn't tell if the alt fire increased or decreased the DPS.

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Wait, fire elementals? I don't have any fire elementals. That might be a Scythe 2 enemy, but with the increased damage of the characters, you should be able to crush them easily

While playing coop in Scythe 1, our server encountered an error on Map28 and kicked everyone from the game.  The code is as follows:

*** ERROR: Tried to spawn a class-less actor

Server is running Zandronum v3.0.1, clients are running ZCC v1.6 (Zan v3.0)

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Yeah, it's something to do with crush damage, I'll be looking into that once I finish up with this Combined_Arms update.

Take your time, just thought I'd report it.

On a side note, its cool to see some Brain Lord soundtrack representation, one of my favorite games from my childhood.

Just saw the update, thanks for the fix!

What games did the music come from?

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Darude - Sandstorm

hello I really wanted the old gmota :) can not pass me the file?

I love me a good wacky DOOM mod. Bless you, my dude.

This mod basically takes other games that were contemporary to Doom, and meshes them with Doom seamlessly.

All that's left, at this point, is Sega Genesis / Megadrive based content.

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This mod is beautiful..all it needs now is a barbarian wrestler.

Dude, I hope you continue this because this is ace stuff

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I'm actually working on the next big update now! Should have a new playable character soon enough.

Can't wait! X3

Looking forward to it. Great work and thanks.

Damn, the madman! Can't waiiiit

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Need more maps made for this mod that also fit the theme.
Its a blast to play overall just running out of maps to play on.

Oh and Sega Genesis sounds/music need love too.
Also playable dragon that can claw and pounce? Eh just throwing that out there.

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You could always run it through some maps that aren't exactly medieval themed. Vrack 1, 2, and 3 are all my gotos for playtesting mods and they're all really intense and a lot of fun. Funny you should mention sega genesis stuff and a dragon character, I'm planning on adding a Kobold character in a later update that will have a Sega Genesis sound theme, so music and sounds from Sega games, though rather than claw and pounce he's gonna throw arcing flask bomb weapons and shoot stuff with a crossbow.

Glad you're enjoying this.

Thanks for the reply.
True no reason other maps without the theme could work. I'll try out Vrack sometime, thanks for the suggestion.
I really should dig up more or learn to make some already.
I'd suggest http://www.project2612.org/ as a great Genesis music resource (web player too) if you don't already know of it. Dragon Slayer, Dragon's Fury, Devilish, maybe Monster World 4, some of Cosmic Carnage, maybe a bit of Contra Hard Corps, might fit well. Most games have a Sci-Fi style though. I'm sure you have your picks just thought I could mention a few. Dark Sci-Fi stuff works great for dark demon battles though. Oh there's also Golden Axe 1/2/3 but that's obvious. Burning force might fit in a way, good soundtrack there too.
Kobold sounds great atctually, didn't know you were still actively adding to it so best of luck with that.
Tempted to get into map making and try an arcade like (maybe multiplayer co-op balanced) scripted map set for the mod but I have a lot to learn modern GZDOOM mapping wise.
Thanks again for the mod, it's been some much needed stress relief on the go on an android port of Zdoom this year. (works well btw but needs a gamepad/mouse keyboard of course)

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Alternatively, you can just download a Genesis/Megadrive soundfont to give the vanilla MIDI soundtrack that distinctive Sega sound! ;)

Maldita Castilla also has a good Genesis-esque soundtrack that you can download for free, since the original version is freeware.

Good suggestions.
Also some good creative commons licensed community music out there done on the YM2612.
Maldita Castilla certainly had some spooky soundtrack, would go great with a dark map set.

you know who would be a good character in this, Duke Nukem, he time traveled before so it would kinda make sense

Guess I can't "WHEN'S GMOTA" you anymore.